>> we're going to be setting up an rnc field office in the san francisco area for a more rational number of debates. what? what? was busy that month? how does that fix being scary and out of touch? what about policy and principles? >> to be clear, our principles are sound. >> sound principles? there's nothing sound about their aspirin tells. in the speech, the word "immigration" or "gale" never came up. just look at the party platform. they're called stuffy old men, and their platform is strictly anti-choice. they're called narrow-minded and the platform is against gale marriage. they're called scary, and the platform backs strict voting laws. this is a party that's out of touch with reality. joining me now is congresswoman jan schakowsky, and dana milbank, column irs, first, thank you. >> this does signal a shift for the party on immigration, but how can they possibly say their principles are sound? >> well, there's no way. they haven't talked much about principles. we're going to see some of their principles tomorrow when they vote on a budget that's going to change medicare into a vou